Posts by Bill Covert

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Accepting blood transfusions. By which instrument it ceased to be a disfellowshipping offense to become cause for disassociation?

by EdenOne in

ok, i know the story of how it went, with the deal they reached with the bulgarian government, etc.

i know.. what i need to know is if there is an internal document that redefines willingly taking blood as a disfellowshipping offense into a cause for disassociation.

a letter from the branch?

Bill Covert

For years I write my letters centering on the 2013 RNWT revision of Leviticus 5:1 and the Sept.1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" starting after the Barbara Anderson essay "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals". They go to publishers homes [ although no more as in June I got call from US Postal Inspector and local police, that they were threats, once the shunning issue brought up they realized that I was just fucking with the minds], Kingdom Hall doors, AMA, Pennsylvania DA, Jewish University, local Bible university, etc, just what you would expect from a religious kook.

I post here, just a religious kook.

The point I TRY to make is that the Sept.1 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" is unique among the many deceptions has authored in that this article was a highly engineered deception designed to fabricate a Gestapo informant hunting license for the purpose of ferreting out apostates. But the 2013 revision of Lev.5:1 has been cloaked in silence [as indeed it is new light] . I The argument I put forth is that Gestapo informant policy is a major engineered deception hence the question. When set along side of the blood policy what degree of murder is the church guilty of by their withholding from families of whom forfeiture of human life is enforced by being being DAed and loss of family by the shunning policy the information that the church uses deception as a means to create policy?

In business fraud is defined as "the falsification of a fact OR the omission of a fact. So for the church to revise Lev.5:1 in 2013 and keep that "new light" secret, what moral, ethical or legal responsibility do they have to inform families that are being confronted by dire medical decisions that the church uses deceptions to fabricate a non biblical informant policy in light of the sanctions of loss of family by means of being DAed and shunned?

The Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" was written in 1987!!! It was part of a package deal which was brought into being in 1984. That package consisted of and started with; the obedience to the Organization mantra, the emergence of a brand new enemy "the apostate", the brand new sanction "shunning". These new policies were completely foreign in the pre1975 church. This package was the transition from the Matt. 24: 34 singular era to the "sacred mystery" era of Matt. 24: 34 and "master delayed" slave transition Matt. 24: 48-51.

Barbra Anderson's essay "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" is a major research paper that sheds light on the 2013 revision of Lev.5:1! It is under appreciated. I am NOT taking anything away from Barbara's reputation [I personally view her molestation work to be the cornerstone of the fall of the JW church] but Barbara has a wart, she will mine a male for information to advance her position as #1 Apostate, then hang the source of information out to dry and twist in the wind.

To stand the DAing and shunning blood transfusion policy next to the 2013 RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 is a much greater revelation than Deut. 22:25-27 stood next to the "two witness policy" of Deut. 19:15!

The issue is MURDER!

Yours truly a "kook" Eccl.9:13-16

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Is there a 'for dummies' on Robert Hendriks thread?

by carla in

can anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the robert hendriks thing?

he was recently 'dismissed' from bethel and was pid (public information department?

) i'm not even sure i have this right..... thanks much.

Bill Covert

It went into a airplane for a second president of a start up automotive transmission overdrive company. The attorney and the swindler were JW's. They raised the money thru bogus unregistered securities. The first president quit. The second president was the smart crook, saw the opportunity to clean out the bank account, then run.

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Is there a 'for dummies' on Robert Hendriks thread?

by carla in

can anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the robert hendriks thing?

he was recently 'dismissed' from bethel and was pid (public information department?

) i'm not even sure i have this right..... thanks much.

Bill Covert

Robert Hendricks told me "That Christians to suffer falsely for the sake of WTB&TS should be considered a honor and privilege, for a period of 15 years. The 15 year time period in accordance to the time spent on the circumcision issue".

This was about 1997. The setting was I was trying to get authorization from a traveling man to authorize a investigation into a powerful swindler by elders out side his influence and power. Also I had been falsely labeled "a marked man" by the elder who refused to forward three investigations into a $4,250,000 unregistered securities fraud in retaliation for me calling him a coward for refusing to comply with instructions in the Sept. 1 1987 Wt. article "A Time To Speak When?" as to Lev.5:1 to Merton Campbell of the Service Dept. Allowing that dump fuck the opportunity to correct his incompetence of appointing the swindler Ray Dale to investigate himself on his own swindle.

Hendricks was a fucking idiot! He could not comprehend there being a possibility of there being a chance of a real problem. He was part of the "obey the Organization mantra" and "God will handle the problem" and the victim being victimized a second time all for the sake of alter of obedience to the WTB&TS.

Accompanying him was R. Alden brother in law to Elmer Woodley.

I quit going to meetings after that. I got a City Fire Dept. arson investigator to review the court case of the $4,250,000 swindler. Mailed it too Merton Campbell. He did nothing. Elmer Woodley followed Hendricks. When he arrived one of the named defendants was being convicted of embezzlement. Again Woodley could not take the time to listen about there being a real criminal in the area. He gave me a phone call, thanked me for putting a engine in his Suburban 20 years earlier. I pissed him off. When he went back to Bethel, he went to Merton Campbell, who lied to him saying "the fireman recanted his letter, he next went to legal dept. they told him the Society was not afraid of me as statute of limitations had ran out.

When he was next in town I was called into the back room with his brother in law R, Alden and two other elders. I back all four of them down. Elmer told the lies Merton Campbell said. Elmer refused to accept the understanding 0of Lev.5:1 per the article "A Time to Speak When?". They did not attempt to disfellowship me as I had brought legal court decisions on the defrauding of widows.

I went to the fireman asking if he did recant letter, he said no. He said if I want to push the issue i should hire a CPA to do a forensic audit of the swindling of a widow. It cost me $3,800. No body would read it.

Long story.

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are men more compliant than women

by enoughisenough in

i watched a video once of men being trained ...it was a study.

they had the men doing the most rediculous things-can't remember quite what now.

so between that video, the letter to elders to keep their mouths shut about the koolaid, and to go along with the csa protocol, and what i will call insurance fraud by the jw, and who knows what other things the men in positions in the org go along with-these things prompt the question.

Bill Covert

There was a TV program many years ago on the sexes. The main points I remember was that men can be can be more mind controlled by issues and crowd mentality, hence the ability to form them into armies and fight wars. To form women up into groups is akin to herding cats. Women are not interested in issues but in environment surrounding family.

So then who is the stronger sex?

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JWs win 2015 Bronze Telly Award in the “Online Video News Feature”

by OrphanCrow in

jworg is carrying a "news" article concerning their recent win of a telly award.. i don't need to add to the jworg website hits, so here is the award listed on the telly award website:.

https://www.tellyawards.com/winners/list/?l=jehovah%27s&event=16&category=3&award=b.

2015 online video bronze winners.

Bill Covert

Orphan Crow did a piece on a Lorenz Reibling in Argentina in 2015. I haven't seen anyone get closer to to understanding where Jared Kurshner's billion dollar purchase money went to disappear. I am still impressed.

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

Bill Covert

You are absolutely right, the vast amount of purely evilness was unimaginable prior to 1984. There was a certain amount of traveling men who had the ability to root out wickedness with in a congregation by monitoring the spirit with in the congregation. Since the change in about 1984 with the introduction of the "obedience to the organization two catch phrases; "obey" the direction of GB and "god will handle it" has completely gutted a judicial system that some what worked prior to 1975.

1975 was a big thing!

Get this though. One week before I had to appear in court there was a article in the paper that the local Indian casino owning native American tribe went into partnership with a Texas energy company to build a hydrogen fuel manufacturing plant in Red Bluff Ca.. Being in the truck repairing for 53 years, where I live next to a freeway inter change on a dead end rd. and the local tribe notoriety of speaking with a forked tongue I realized I was going to have a state of the art truck stop and travel center dealing in alternate fuels on my fence line. There was a field across the road that I bought so now I have freeway access cut off from the 40+ acre field the Indians own.

The real irony is the exact same scenario happened two years ago when the USA largest land owner Red Emmerson had the tribes future casino cut off from freeway. So probably in about 5 years when the tribe needs to purchase right of way I might come not to bad of shape.

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

Bill Covert

I read just a bit of the court proceedings. The attorney for the church stated that "the JW Church was a hierarchical church just like the Catholics". Thus had ownership of church buildings. It was a long time ago I read that so could be off some.

I doubt there is not anyone on this site that has paid a heavy-er price than myself because the secret instructions to with hold the court case #14983 of a career criminal defrauding another widow which concluded two months before the wife was pressured to leave marriage. 19 years x #36,000 a year alimony +$68,400, 5 sons, 10 grandchildren. Got taken to court by church directions last July, to sell community property house because I missed some alimony payments. It was at the church direction because I got phone calls from US Postal Investigator and local PD about my letters in the mail to publishers homes. Once the investigators heard about the church "shunning policy" they understood I wasn't going to bomb the KH. Got turned in to postal inspector many years ago because a wanaby elder said I was planning to bomb the KH.

There is not a clearer description of the GB than what Jesus said Matt. 24: 48-51!

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

Bill Covert

Wow I got fed some wrong info.THANKS!

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

Bill Covert

The doer of that deed would of been Merton Campbell, he was the northern Cailf. Service Desk.

Randall Waters had a post on this site on Merton Campbell. it centered on the Red Bluff Calif. sodomize r Henderson, who it took 5 trips across Campbell's desk before he was permanently removed. There was a lady Ft Worth Tx. attorney who was in local paper [forget he name] that got the court win. I talked with her about another molestation case. Evidently that post got removed from this site.

There was a swindler that came to Redding Ca. in the mid 1980's, a Ray Dale [he had a 20+ year career defrauding widows and seniors, made possible by church policy that prevented brothers from taking brothers to court on the pain of disfellowshipping and loss of family thru shunning. The pinnacle of Dale's swindles was a $4,250,000 unregistered securities fraud that was taken to Civil Court by Calif. Dept. of Corroborations in 1990 court case #109555. Also involved was a JW Patent Attorney L. Schappert. Campbell was so incompetent that he assigned Ray Dale to investigate Ray Dale! Had he taken the investigation out of the congregation that the fraud was centered in and had assembled a committee outside elders than there would of been a chance that the Service Desk would of seen that Redding area was in need of some professional help in dealing with a REAL criminal!

When the the Shasta County DA"S office, the SEC and the Calif. Dept. of Corporations were investigating Ray Dale the South Redding elders refused on 3 occasions refused to forward letters of criminal investigations to Merton Campbell allowing him to rectify his mistake. Reason being they were terrified of being bitten by a "wolf" Acts 20:28-30! Evidently Campbell did not like me calling him "a servant on a horse" Eccl.10: 7 after that big of a fuck up. After that I was on Campbell's ass like a dirty diaper.

In 2013 when the revised RNWT was released with the Lev.5:1 revision Barbara Anderson was interested in taking on the project as the "new light" of that revision was cloaked in silence. The essay "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" was the finished product. In the phone conversation when the Red Bluff sodomizer Henderson came up Barbara asked me if per chance I was the man in northern Calif. who wrote the most offensive letters to Bethel of anyone in the USA [she had a Bethel friend who entered all letters of hate into a data base] I said that was "a bingo". But Barbara is not going to back up anything I say as that would reveal someone other than herself owner the intellectual property understanding the deception of Lev.5:1 in the 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" that was a highly thought deception to create a "hunting license" to ferret out apostates in the year 1987.

Merton Campbell scripted out my disfellowshippment. Not only that he instructed the Appeals Committee presiding elder to conceal court case #149893 where the swindler was defrauding another widow out of $100,000 court case #149893. That case ended in March 2004, my wife left in May 2004. Had that Bastard Campbell been anywhere competent I would still have a family today! [Again my apology of making a fool of myself a month ago, evidently I got wrong information you were in Redding area and Joe Moore the presiding elder who concealed court case #149893 also too was a long time Bethelite during your era and his wife is 3rd generation}.

In 2007 I hired a privet investigator who uncovered court case #149893. I taped it to the church doors [just like Martin Luther] on 12-26-2007. And on 12-31-2007 the elder who refused to forward three letters of criminal investigation to Merton Campbell had a heart attack. The last thing he ever saw the was the face of my #5 son who was on the fire truck and put the oxygen mask on him and did CPR. Turns out that elder tried to get my son to suck his penis when he was a kid. I am the Apostate refereed to in the 2013 assembly talk "Human Apostates" who wrote letters to publishers homes, with the motive of attacking the consciences of cowards who were terrified of Ray Dales "wolf pack" Acts 20:28-30.

To make it a small world my cousin screwed that Bay Area elder you refereed to out of about $20,000.

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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?

by Ron.W. in

yes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?

they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?

?.

Bill Covert

THANKS!

What people don't know is that; obedience to the organization, invention of new enemy "the apostate", the "shunning policy", the deception of Lev.5:1 to fabricate a hunting license to ferret out apostates, was all a package deal.

It was a well thought out "snare" to hold families hostage. It was a true conspiracy in 1983, as the "obedience mantra began in 1984.